What to do in the light of Andy Comiskey’s dangerous move to IHOP?
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Inadequate Characters** My Experience of them an seeming inability to face problems difficulties arising out of ‘their’Ministr/ies.
Prayerlessness see Alec compare him to other Saints and it’s all there for the seeing.
A DISLIKE AND HATRED OF THE CHURCH, AND PASTORAL AND HEALING JUST FLING A FEW BIBLE VERSES AROUND IN A ONE SIZE FITS ALL WAY.
Financial Demandingness we have £300.000 to pay for Manchester thing cough up no regard for pressures on Supporters.
Andy could you buy this thing?
The Insular Cultural Ghetto the incestuous clique played out before your eyes offending every inclusive welcoming bone in your body.
We are journeying into unknown territories.
BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW ALL ABOUT BICKLE THE KANSAS CITY PROPHETS AND THEIR ABUSES AND GOD TV AND OF COURSE JOYNER WHO YOU WILL MEET IT’S ALL ON THE NET BUT YOU NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN RESEARCH AND ENQUIRY AND ASCERTAIN WHETHER YOU THINK THE TRUTH IS BEING SPOKEN OR NOT; FROM WHERE I AM IT IS AND I AM WARNED AND I WILL WARN. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CHANGE AND CORRECTION BUT THEY DO NOT LISTEN. HOWEVER GOD GOT THEM TO LISTEN WHEN I DID JACOB PRAYER BLESSINGS BLESSINGS BLESSINGS WHAT’S MISSING AND CRUNCH LINE ‘IF I AM RIGHT ABOUT X Y Z’ THEY [ALL] PROVIDE PLENTY OF MATERIAL ON THAT FRONT.
The time for change is right. I believe that God is repositioning us for the crucial role we are to play in the greater church.
I couldn’t agree more and Schools Out is the evidence you don’t know what you have started and I want more.
On the last day we met with Mike and Diane Bickle. My purpose in meeting with them was difficult—I needed to challenge Mike on the need for more focused ministry for the sin and profound brokenness in the hearts of his people. In seeking a deeper walk with Jesus, those gathered still needed to deal forthrightly with their broken humanity! God gave me glimpse of this while there; I saw a vulnerable spot in the community, and I spoke it out in fear and trembling. Diane and he resonated with the counsel, and urged us for suggestions as to how to remedy the problem.
WILL THEY LISTEN OR WILL IT GO THE WAY OF ALL ELSE DELETED NOT CONSIDERED ATTACKED ETC A BOLD MOVE YES I SEE VULNERABLE SPOTS IN IHOP TOO. THEY HAVE A HABIT OF NOT LISTENING BEWARE!
This could authenticate our global vision, while impacting internationals in our midst. (The community there represents many nations.) THERE MUST BE OTHER WAYS TO DO THIS HILLSONGS IS INTERNATIONAL, RENOVARE IS INTERNATIONAL GOD TV JOYNER ETC ARE FULL OF DEAD MENS BONES AND PUT THEMSELVES UP FOR GLOBAL THINGS.
God wants us to be wise with our resources. Kansas City is half the cost of living in Orange County, CA. It is at the center of the USA, and could readily become central to nationwide conferences and trainings for Desert Stream. At a fraction of the cost. This corresponds well with Desert Stream’s stepped up commitment to the church in the USA. GOOD THINKING ANDY BUT IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE IHOP GOD TV JOYNER ESPECIALLY GOD TV WHO ARE POOR WITH THEIR FINANCES AND PUT PRESSURE ON VIEWERS TO BAIL THEM OUT.All saw the good possibilities ahead, but urged me to proceed carefully and slowly, in light of the magnitude of the decision. I AGREE LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP ANDY THERE ARE WOLVES OUT THERE WHO DO NOT LIKE THE CHURCH AND ARE NOT AFRAID OF EXPRESSING IT IN WAYS THAT CAUSE THE BODY OF CHRIST TO PICK UP THE PIECES WHICH OF COURSE IN ON THEIR TERMS NOT IHOPS GOD TV JOYNER’S ETC
The first involved the prospect of leaving the Vineyard movement. This is huge for Annette and me. We have been with the Vineyard since 1979, and at the Vineyard Anaheim for the last ten years. Leaving our particular church home signifies loss for us. WHY LEAVE WHAT WORKS ANDY I HATE WIMBER AND THE LEADERS NOT BEING UP TO TASK FOR TAKING KCP TO TASK WHY ABANDON IS THIS SOME SORT OF PRE-CONDITION FOR ENTRY INTO THEIR MEMBERSHIP?
Related to this has been a loss of favor with those who do not like Mike Bickle and his community. He provokes strong opinions. I AM NOT SURPRISED I WOULD NOT WORK WITH BICKLE AND HIS MATES EVEN IF THEY SOLVED MY PROBLEMS AND THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING ON THE BASIS OF PAST UNREPENTED OF BEHAVIOURS BEWARE!
In losing favor with some, I look forward to the gain of growing in the streams of intercession and prophesy that flow freely there; I also pray that we at Desert Stream will contribute significantly to what God wills for this dynamic, still-being-formed community