More friends of the Alecs: Scandal breaks out on ORU Campus

Here’s the link folks

http://www.americablog.com/2007/10/oral-roberts-university-facing-huge.html

NEWSFLASH Prominent Televangelists face probe

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/265440.aspx?option=print

Note the number of televangelists who are under scrutiny who are also Rory and Wendy’s friends.

Benny Hinn

Kenneth and Gloria Copeland

This Story as you know is all over the world and everyone is discussing it. Readers need to see connection between investigated Televangelists and God TV. The connection thus exposed will remind you of their prophetic irresponsibility which submitting to correction and prayer would save them fro- and stuff  that they would absolutely loathe but be forced to submit.

Joyce meyer lifestyle otherwise she is kosher.

Crefflo and Taffi Dollar,

NEWSFLASH Rick Joyners Steve recalls Rick being told that if he writes that he will destroy his ministry

Steve Joyners Sidekick has come out with a whopper: that ‘if’ [rick joyner]writes that HE WILL DESTROY HIS MINISTRY. (my emphasis).

Lets look at the evidence: Rick joyner and the Alecs base their ministries on Visions that follow the typical Transported Into Heavens Model (Copeland, Duplantis, Alecs, Elijah List, ) that is virtually a prequisite for joining the elite fellowship.

So we have P60 about the new move of God a Fivefold bunch of apostles prophets teachers etc who can DISMANTLE and DISBAND ministries coming in the way (Harvest) and Rick joyner coming out with all sorts of stuff concerned with basically saying that JOYNER/NAR/ELIJAH LIST the Alecs and Chris Cole et al are repositories of the Truth the Pillar and  Foundation of TRUTH and the rest of us haven’t got it/don’t know the LORDS Voice.This smacks of Jehovahs Witness thinking on the saved 144,000 and the rest of humanity being sent to Perdition which as you know is NOT the heart of God.

I believe Joyner and the Alecs and Chris Cole with his CCM front are destroying their ministries by the exercise of the prophetic and that only by the right prayer prayer that they dont like love or desire can they be saved. Benny Hinn being cast off the show in an ignominius fashion.

God TV Night of 28 Oct 2007

Pre Edit machine time.

Is Kenneth Copeland BVOV behaving like our friend Benny Hinn? Assess the evidence more on Rory and Wendy Alec’s friends

Now I live on Benefits and it sickens me to see Televangelists run round on private planes and promote their merchandise as Murdock does. All ‘friends’ of God TV (no bad words, no questions, available at a moments notice etc or on demand as I suspect no matter how inconvenient) .

The Widows mite is always invoked, Luke? and the Widow of Zarapeth. The account above of the woman dying NOT THINKING SHE GAVE ENOUGH TO THE COPELANDS IS APPALLING AND SCANDALOUS.

If the Alecs prayed as in KNOWING GOD prayer this would not happen. God save us all.

NEW SERIES: How to recognise True from False Prophetic and Prophetic in Error God TV Joyner and its Associates

 The link below gives us some place to go in discussing true and false and those ministries in error. However there are some very good blogs out there such as Sign of Jonah where extensive and deep conversations are going on of a critical but accessible nature.

This is my start on it.

I realise that most of my Readers find the contents of this blog frightening or difficult; a good church that deeply cares and that gives you space to get it out is essential in the long run. Space to be you is vital as ‘picking up the pieces’ is emotionally psychically and relationally demanding.

As  I have said before NONE OF THIS BLOG would be possible without those who have gone before through whom I have been inspired to carry out my own Research despite God TV and Joyners carrying out their activities in top secret.

But is the LORD allowing me to see the fallout and examine it’s contents. It is well known to qoute the Alecs that that the viewer only knows a fraction of what is[ really] going  on and then it’s only ’scratching the surface’ (Alecs on Behind the Screens 2006-2007) and me catching the Alecs and other God TV personnel before the beloved Editing machine gets us to lose the gems forever.

But anyway just in case any one thought I wasn’t going to bring the Bible into it here is an overdue start of that process amidst a blog that needs much editing tidying etc to improve readability etc etc (constructive criticism offered on FB by friend of mine)

http://www.biblegateway.com/topical/topical_searchresults.php?searchtype=all&search=false+prophet&resultspp=all&source=1

More Word Faith nonsense Mike Murdock God TV’s fundraising friend

This is Mike Murdock.

(390 words previous for Word Count Daily Targets)

Now I like many others have been watching our friend Mike Murdock in action on God TV as well as Daystar, TBN etc all american if you notice. (prophecy given on the prophetic getting into trouble in US must find and submit) who I notice also seems to follow a formula.

1. He sells his own merchandise and plans to write a thousand books (!!) which he publishes himself.
2. He also has a music thing too and produces own music under his own Label.
3. He sowed seed into riches from rags to riches but giving bigger and bigger gifts to ministries invariably american and word faith. In additon to God tV Paula White, Inspiration etc which makes me wonder if Gods Church is anywhere in TV land.
4. He has a Plane in fact 2!!! a Mansion (Like Hinn only 2 private planes!) sells his own merchandise like Hinn, and pleads social concern etc etc. Salary and expenses are hidden from scrutiny. One should examine his lifestyle.
5. The above video is to inject a little bit of fun into proceedings.
6. He has been at KICC. Matthew Ashimolo is on the God tV Trustee board but you heard it here first not from God TV.

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Email Correspondence to Cathy Much More

athy
I hate loathe and despise God TV. It is a parody of the prophetic. The Alec’s are taking the piss and are treating the Church with contempt. After approving all your comments and letting things be I would like you to offer more serious elucidating commentary than just the needed rant.
I need to rant too. But readers take my analysis more seriously and ranting undermines the site. So I would appreciate it if you calm down, say what you really think rather than go off into some prophetic rant.
I also have to test the prophetic for the site and even though your comments are valid I would rather hear God in it. like the Red Dragon prophecy on Kansas City IHOP, or my legal back up prayer ‘If I am right about ny z about them and God backing me up.
I have rightly been admonished on appearing to rant. I would love to see Readers let off steam about this despicable Channel. But as Administrator and Founder/Creator of the site I would appreciate a more prayerful considered tone.
I hope you see this is for your help and benefit and edification of other users of the site
The LORD richly bless you and help you
Admin
The Governmental Goals of God TV
nb Talented Readers might be a help to me in the future as would be Researchers it’s just an idea.

Email 2

Cathy
I mean this in kindness. It is entirely desirable to want to ‘burn down’ God TV. I hate the ministry but would not do such a heinous act. Instead their guilt will ‘burn them down’ Their deception will cause them real problems.
I am now enforcing a Moderation Policy on your Posts as I cannot have my blog associated with US political affairs, George bush or any other politician. I will henceforth delete the political element of your posts and moderate the rest of your comments mellowing it out a bit. IT IS NOT AS IF THERE IS NOTHING TO BE ANGRY ABOUT. But I would appreciate your taking a more prayerful considered approach to this.
please tell me more about yourself. I too am vulnerably housed living with 50% mentally ill so I know all about screw ups.
So please do yourself a favour and calm it down a bit.
Admin

With Special reference to Crooky777 If you give money and want a refund etc then attempts blocked by Ministry au naturalle and by other means

So if you give money and your name is engraved on Founder Families Wall, or your name is in Jerusalem Broadcast Centre (expensive expensive and costing loads to quote Rory Alec on BTS in Israel) then if you decide after prayerful research that something is amiss and you wish to withdraw funds as in IHOP example then as Crooky777 details in his comment then you won’t find joy.

This is an abberation and exemplifies their lack of Customer Care Ethos a trademark of godly ministry even with problematic relationships etc.

The Laws: And How to spot an Vulnerable Ministry ANY

The Laws and How to spot a Vulnerable Ministry Individual Church

Monday, 17 September 2007

16:38:28 a9/p9

The more contacts a ministry has the higher the more threatening is the ministry in the eyes of those adopting governmental positions.

High ups wishing to contact is another sign.

Hidden agendas =everyone is vulnerable. Ministries of any type.

Broken links pages taken down ditto as facts are consistently misrepresented and history re-written to cover up sins.

The issue is Q are the ministries in control of the enemies or the other way round??

Working together in unity is often a cover to get access to Confidential Papers and give the appearance of brotherhood when it provides the opportunity to change the nature of the Ministry.

God TV as an example of Prophetic Irresponsibility see if you agree??

Prophetic Irresponsibility

by Bryan Hupperts

Call this an open letter of concern to the global prophetic community. Several years ago

the Lord showed me a vision of prophetic ministers urinating and defecating into a

beautiful, flowing stream. Downstream, people were dipping silver cups into the

flowing waters and were gagging on the human impurities and waste! Because of the

prophetic pollution problem upstream, there was precious little “clean water‚” to drink.

The reaction to this vision was mixed. A pastor friend of mine was outraged that I

would dare share such a thing and it eventually broke our relationship. Lots of fingers

were being pointed at me, baseless accusations made, dark whispers about my motives,

I was labeled a “troublemaker‚” and on it went.

The prophetic office and gifts were not given to the church so that someone could

discern via word of knowledge the first three numbers of your cell phone number and

wow the crowds, but for, according to Ephesians 4: 11-14, “The equipping of the saints

for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the

unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the

measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children,

tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men,

in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting.”

Like all other 5 fold functions, the prophetic office has certain functions and should yield

very specific kinds of fruits. First, they should be for the work of the ministry bringing

about the unity of the faith. Next, they should bring increasingly clearer revelation and

knowledge of Jesus. They should also hold up the pattern of Christ as the mark for

which to grow and model our lives after. And why? So that we grow up and can stand

fast so that we can discern a genuine move of the Spirit of God from often hurricane

force winds of doctrine interjected into the body of Christ by tricky, crafty, deceitful

men.

Whew!

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because of the web. Sometimes when I get letters from countries I cannot pronounce

about how God has blessed or challenged people or churches through my work, well,

Courtesy of Sheeptrax Media a Key prophecy which people need to listen to and judge for themselves whether this is right or  a false accusation.